# Talk:Set of Integers Bounded Above has Greatest Element

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## Confusing page

I do not understand why this page makes a distinction without a difference.

If a set of integers is bounded above by an integer $x$, then it is bounded above by the real number $x$.

If a set of integers is bounded above by a real number $x$, then it is bounded above by the integer $\ceiling{x}$.

What is the point of having the separate definitions? I think it should be merged into one page (we can of course keep the different proofs). KarlFrei (talk) 02:37, 5 October 2018 (EDT)

- Don't know. The contributor who perpetrated this nonsense made many deep-reaching structural and philosophical changes to a wide swathe of $\mathsf{Pr} \infty \mathsf{fWiki}$ without really following through his ideas, leaving us no choice but to block him and tidy up after him. I believe he may have had a strategy, but I never really learned what it was; as he was so much cleverer than everyone else, he did not need to justify his actions because he knew better than the rest of us.

- I'd rather you left this sort of thing well alone for now, and concentrate on adding new stuff, leaving the long-time admins to continue the task of rationalising and refactoring as we go. We have had a lot of experience of enthusiastic new arrivals with bright ideas about how the site should be restructured -- but all too often it has ended in muddle and chaos because the true structure of $\mathsf{Pr} \infty \mathsf{fWiki}$ is imperfectly understood, and as a result it has got damaged, requiring lots more work to fix it again. --prime mover (talk) 02:48, 5 October 2018 (EDT)